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Stony, flies don't cause garbage. They just can't resist it. It is in their genes. Likewise human beings are mammals and mammals are prone to brutal violence.

We just can't change our genes yet can't we? Thus the only way we can stop this gun related crimes on everyday newspaper is we prevent the exposure of mass destructive weapons just like we always keep the garbage well covered.

I like being selfish than a hypocrite. At least I well understand the choice and I am honest to it. Between the rights to keep my guns and people that I don't know die everyday. I choose to keep my guns.

"Those who live by the sword, die by the sword"

I keep but I don't live by.

If he couldnt get his hands on a gun it wouldnt have happened in the 1st place ....

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That is such BS. He might not have taken out so many people but he would have killed more than the first two.

I have a different view of this situation...
What the hell were the other students doing?
Do American's have any balls any more?
TWO people actually did something, yes both are dead, but other people lived because of them.
Where were the other "macho" wanna be's ?

If that happened in my classroom, I guarantee I would do something...I might be deaded for it but I would do something.

As a whole the people of the US are quickly becoming dependant on someone else to protect them. In short, the people of the US are becoming wussies just like the eurotrash most of us came from. The American Spirit is slowly dying.

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Yep , just hand them out to everyone that will solve all your problems....

And why rely on the police when you can drive a sherman tank and deal with it yourself ....

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It would certainly save a lot of tax money.



I'll repeat myself again. B...O...M...B.

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I just came across this story. It highlights the media bias and backlash that exists in this country towards citizens that chose to carry firearms. Seeing as much of the rest of the world bases their opinions of this country on our media outlets, fast food and idiotic federal leadership and foreign policy, I'm sure stories such as this one never make international news.

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The fact that such an event even happens in not a defence for gun ownership. I'd struggle to see that happening any Western European country.

It just leads back to the "everyone has guns" problem. If you need them for self defence, keep them in your house.

This is a comparison that eludes to the claim I made earlier in the thread.
Kennesaw has a mandatory gun ownership law. Marietta does not. Both cities are part of the Atlanta Metro Area. The cities are mere minutes from each other.

Here is the comparision

http://kennesaw.areaconnect.com/crime/c ... etta&s2=GA

and a map ( Ihope this works----if not Barely north west of Atlanta--on I-75

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8& ... 3699f0a013

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Uhm, keep them in your house....Yeah, because the only place you would ever need to defend yourself is in your house?

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunblane_massacre
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erfurt_massacre

I'm sure if I took the time to look beyond wikipedia, I could find more. Yes, more of these assaults have happened in the US, but more of them have also happened in Canada than Europe as well.

With so many differences in the way things are handled in the different countries, I can't imagine it's just about the guns. As mentioned before, Switzerland has lots of guns per capita, and low crime. It's about more than just access to the weapons. It's about society, education, law enforcement, etc. It's not just about a little hunk of well crafted metal.

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Wayne - I was specifically referring to Tomarlowe's link rather than school killings with regards to a defence for gun ownership (aka "helping" the cops with your gun when they get in a shoot out - I can't see that going wrong!).

SS - impressive (your map link didn't work, but I found 'em manually ) but without knowledge of the area I'm not really sure. Even certain areas of LA are nice, but the area I was in had bars on the window on every property around the hotel. As you said, it isn't enforced anyway. Do you have any stats that show it over time (pref before & after the law came into affect?).

Tomarlowe - so you are saying every adult should carry a gun at all times?

Ah, I misunderstood.

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Now there's 3 dead from a mall rampage in Kansas City.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/29/mall.s ... index.html

Here's a situation for everybody: suppose this incident resulted in only 1 person being shot because some inner-city youths carrying guns themselves managed to stop the shooter before anything else could happen. Would they be heroes, criminals, or both?

The question continues. Another group of guns carriers saw these inner-city youths and opened fire immediately in order to stop them from murdering someone. Would they be heroes, criminals, or both?

Stony your question is bogus...

Gun toting Inner city youths live by a different code... "Stop Snitchin" and "Warna Brother"

They would help the guy get away from the police

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